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  • Doomsday Clock! What do you think so far? (SPOILERS)

    Didn't see any threads already created for this, and since it's a 12-part event, I thought I'd open one up.

    I thought issue #1 was quite intriguing, and I'm excited to see where this is going. But this chapter also felt decompressed. I hope future ones read tighter.

    I have zero hypotheses for who this new Rorschach is. Has there been anything during these Rebirth months to give anyone a clue? Maybe it's someone we've never met. Maybe we'll never(ish) even find out this one's identity. Hurm.

    Johns' creation of these new characters Mime and Marionette is equally interesting. Like Moore's original main characters, these two are patterned after Charlton Comics ones. (While DC acquired Charlton's in 1983, it didn't let Moore use them for Watchmen, asking him to create his own analogues instead.) The weird thing is, Mime's and Marionette's obscure antecedents - Charlton's Punch and Jewelee - were themselves recently used in Tom King's Batman title. That can't be coincidence. What a multiversal amuse-bouche! I just wonder what it is about Marionette - and not Mime - which Adrian Veidt feels is so important for allowing him to find Dr. Manhattan.

    And while I liked the Superman stuff to close the issue, his final line about never having had a nightmare before seemed pushing it lol. Dramatic, yeah. But come on. Clark has nightmares.

    What did you think of Doomsday Clock #1?
  • Re: What comics did you read and like this week?

    Saga is my favorite title-to-drink-coffee-with
  • Re: The Inescapable... MISTER MIRACLE Thread!!! (Also, to know them is to hate them--SPOILERS!)

    @nweathington Motherbox! I love that. Those things always have seemed to be imbued with a mysterious Fourth World spirit. Now I am wanting to see this. Poor Tom King, he's probably about to roll out some genius remaining half of his story that has nothing to do with formal religion and I'm gonna be like "but... what about... the holy trinity thingie?" :joy:

    @TheOriginalGMan You're right, Oberon IS conveniently passed on from life in this story. Hmm. We may indeed see him as a holy ghost! Speaking of Oberon, what a batshit crazy life this dude has had. I just visited his Wikipedia page which totally reminded me of when he briefly dated the Justice League's Brazilian bombshell, Fire LOL
  • Re: What comics did you read and like this week?

    Well, technically speaking, I think all of our comic book superheroes are superantiheroes. :joy: But yeah, it is a matter of perspective. Here's what school once told me:

    Heroes achieve a justice by acting within the law and society's code; e.g. cops, lawyers, doctors. Firefighters. But as wonderful as our Avengers and Justice Leaguers are? None of them are deputized/trained/ authorized/licensed to harass crooks, alleged or convicted, or to endanger innocents in doing so, or to interfere in possible pending criminal cases, or to cause property damage in their pursuit of what only they've decided is criminal behavior. As nice as Superman is, even he is a vigilante. But the surgeon who saved a little boy's life? The person who risked his/her reputation to go to court and fight for a civil liberty? The police detective who worked hard to collect iron-clad evidence against a serial killer? My mom, when she saved Halloween by sewing me an armadillo costume? (hypothetically.) Those are what people in our society might freely call heroes.

    Antiheroes achieve a justice by acting within their own individual codes, which sometimes runs outside of the law; e.g. the hardboiled private investigators of crime fiction, or our beloved comic book capes, or any Robin Hood-type. These are ends-justify-the-means people. They work in grey areas, but they're confident that attaining justice is worth skirting whatever rules are slowing it. And I get it, it's simply a matter of perspective: someone might say Ra's al Ghul is an antihero, he was (at least originally) trying to murder billions of people, yes, but it was because he believed it was "justice" to stop humankind and overpopulation from derailing Nature's order. Every villain is the hero of his/her own story, right? Granted, I'd then make a case that murdering billions of people seems excessive... and Ra's wanted to rule what was left of humankind... which makes it an even darker shade of dark grey, at least. Like, midnight black lol. But someone like The Punisher? He's like... light charcoal? Depending upon the storyteller. If the only people he's killing are people he and we know are twisted killers themselves? Antihero. But if he's killing innocents along the way, too? Well... yuck.
  • Re: The Inescapable... MISTER MIRACLE Thread!!! (Also, to know them is to hate them--SPOILERS!)

    Wow. Issue #4. Another delicious bar of dark, dark chocolate :joy:

    Very talky - I kept thinking Gerads must've saved a bit of time in this one lol - but still so fascinating. And gorgeous, especially Barda and Orion. I am intrigued trying to decipher Gerads' use of the "TV screen disturbance" effect. Something tells me it'll be a bit before we know for sure. (Anyone? Anyone?) And these rough lines, and shadows around Scott's masked mouth... this is a real feast.

    It's also the first issue I've read having now read some of Kirby's original MM run; I see what you mean, @nweathington, about how King is using Kirby's intro/outro letterbox narrations, and to great effect here. They flirt with implying that Barda may be the undoing of Scott Free, unintentionally... or not. They also seem to provide a meta commentary on Kirby, himself. This King story is so rich. Every time I think about it, I stumble onto new layers. What a writer he is.